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Michael Or Dina? Who Is To Blame For Lindsay's Troubles?
I have spoken to both of Lindsay's parents today... mom Dina on the phone and Michael in a two-way satellite interview. The troubling thing is that each one sounds "right."
Michael is essentially blackballed by Lindsay and she does not want to talk to him. He continues to try. He has a terrible record and by all means has been a poor influence on his daughter, having gone to jail for driving while intoxicated and attempted assault. He was a drug user and a man with a bad temper. It's hard to blame her.
But Michael has slowly been "walking the walk" it appears, thanks to the faith based program he credits with putting him on a right and sober path. It's called Teen Challenge.
Michael's belief is that this sort of thing is the only thing that can save her. I have to admit, I tend to agree in at least that it's a very positive concept. Give faith a chance.
Dina gets a rough rap for being a bad mother. People say she is so absorbed in her own publicity desires that she has failed as a mom. I think that's too easy to say and it stems from ignorance.
Lindsay is 21. She is not beholden to her mother's command. She can do as she wishes. Dina is trying to get Lindsay to New York and has been for a few years, she told me. Los Angeles seems to be a pit of temptation and destruction for a lot of Young Hollywood... it's a good idea.
Where Michael and Dina agree is that Lindsay needs to change her environment. That's a good step.
In the end, I will pray for the family. It would be great if they could work out their problems and make it - especially Lindsay, who is a kid.
seem like jail is the only hope since glorified rehabs in calif serve no useful purpose but to take your cash..
here ’s how the story should end:
lost of movies for 3yrs
lost of endorsments for 3yrs
losrt od singing contract for 3yrs
lost of freedom ( see courts)
serve 1 yr in jail for dui and cocaine position ( back to back dui’s )
must watch videos of mangled bodies from dui accidents for -5 hr a day
must watch video of surgeons trying to save lives of dui victims -3 hrs a day
must watch funerals of dui victims - 3 hrs a day
must read letters from orphans whose parents were killed due to dui
must donate 1 million to MADD
or
go to rehab outside of california for - 2yrs
serve community in service for 2000 hrs after release from rehab talking to teen about driving drunk and drugs
she is going to kill some one one day.. next heroine
This is just too sad. It breaks my heart. What on earth is going on with young Hollywood?
She's a young beautiful girl with so much potential.
I hope that SHE realizes that she is putting her life in danger. She needs treatment real treatment - not the typical "Hollywood Wonderland Treatment".
I too don't blame her for distancing herself from her father - but she can no longer use him as an excuse. Yes, she may have crappy parents and yes, she may have had a crappy childhood - and I feel for her. But she is 21. She needs to take control of her own life. I truly hope she gets the help she needs. If being Jailed will help her realize how troubling her actions are, then so be it.
i think that its both parents fault. Dina doesn't seem to be the best mother that she can be... Its got to be hard to watch your kid be in the spot light all the time. I think that she has some major jealousy going on. and she needs to get over it before it effects her kids even more. I'm sure that having micheal as a dad is a great role model. They both have been in arrested for DUI's. Hmmmmm Father like Daughter?
I dont blame anyone but Lindsay.She is old enough to know right from wrong, and she deserves to go to PRISON. How many excuses can they give her?She is a spoiled rotten brat. Sorry.She deserves to go to prison. I have always loved her as an actress, but will now be boycotting her and her movies.
who cares....u r both to blame...how dare u blame it on one or the other....u r both out for FAME....so so so bad.....NEXT
All I can say is that you can't really blame Lindsay's parents of somne of her troubles especial now she is 21 years old. I can say is that having parents divorce is very hard on the kids especial if ur the older child of the family. I feel really sorry for what happen to her lately but if you are 21 years old thats mnean you become an adult and you need to take your own action really careful especial if the things that you do is going to be bad decide .. all i can say is that she is no longer child she needs to take her own action.. she that one who got the alcohol and drink not her parents. its sad what happen but LINDSAY YOU NEED TO GROW UP..
Lindsays real problem which is is her dads problem is that she is an alcoholic and only other alcoholics know how to treat other alcoholics. Your hollywood treatment centers are not what she needs. She needs some real tough love.
To be honest.. Lindsey is matbe the most talented member of young hollywood and I actually felt that she was the one with the most promise to improve..but wow what a disappointment..she has really let herself, family and fans down..but girl we are still rooting for you cause there must be a brain behind that talent..maybe you should listen to your mom and move to New York as..we all know that bad association spoils useful habits...
I think Lindsay now needs professional help, she should not go out shopping on weekends and have a cell phone. She should dump her so call friends, they are not friends, they are hurting her. I have Epilespy and I knew I couldn't drink, if I had a drink I was drunk with one glass. I learned from one mistake and never went back. I was 16 years old. Another thing she has to have a support system, good friends and family and with her family broken up, that's hard for a 21 year old. Even though she is 21, she may only have the mind of a 16 year old. She wants attention, and I don't blame her but she has a life everyone wishes that they could have. This promise place is a joke, I wouldn't send my dog to rehab their. She needs time in jail or she should move out of the city and do community service. I love her movies and wish her the best in the future. She just needs good people to support her.
Lohan's parents and Lohan
are to blame. Her parents
have been AWOL. Drunkeness
is called sin in Christianity.
And God can deliver drunks
such as Lohan. Hollywood culture is not real. Why is
this young lady even out after midnight? She needs
to be spanked and reared.
She's beautiful and talented but needs drastic help.No shopping trips,no posh surroundings...Lindsey needs a wake up call before it's too late.She has so much to offer...can't she see that?
Send her to a REAL rehab center where she'll be treated like everyday joe and not like a celebrity on vacation.
i think she is to blame she chose to do what she did her parents di not chose for her she just made a bad choice nobody made do it!
Okay, first off, Lindsay Lohan is NOT a child, she is 21 for goodness sake. I have a daughter who is 19 and she is much more responsible and mature than Londsay. So stop using her age as an excuse for immature, self-destructive behavior. It's time she grew up.
As far as the BS about the drug not being hers, that is such a crock. If it is in your possession, it's yours, period.
DUI, that is inexcusable, she needs to be treated like everyone else. If she had killed somebody while driving drunk, as far as I am concerned it would be a 2nd degree murder charge facing her.
In short, it's time the law enforcement community in LA got tough and enforced the laws for everyone, regardless of "connections" or notoriety. And it's time for people like you to stop with the adulation of these self-destructive people, and expect at least a modicum of socially acceptable behavior from them, socially acceptable to the rest of the world, anyway, I know the definition of socially acceptable is highly strained there in La-La Land.
People are saying "Lindsay's safe" etc, well I'm glad she's not hurt, but more so with her in rehab or jail at least the public is safe. It seems to me that there is some poor soul out there who is going to get killed by this girl before people take things seriously and put her away.
Hey Everyone
I would just like to say that although i don't know what Lindsay is going through I understand her pain.
But I justcan't understandwhy she would give in to this kind of behaviour when she knows first hand how heartbreaking and wrong it is?
Her father has an addiction and she hated him for it so it would only make sense for her to be away as far as possible from that behaviour or addiction. So why is she falling in his footsteps?
Why does she do the things she once condemd her father of doing? Shouldn't she know forgive him and tell him she understands why it took him so long do sober up?
Please Lindsay wake up...
You are amazing
I am sick of hearing about Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton all the time. Lindsay needs to be locked up for a while and forgotten. She is obviously unaccountable for her own behavior. She needs to get out of the public eye, clean herself up and not show her face again until she is ready to act respectably.
Lindsay needs to take responsibility for her actions. The drugs are not hers but found in her pocket, sorry not buying it. Yes, Lindsay is an adult, however, she lacked the foundation in her home life to develop the skills necessary to deal w/ the consquences of fame for that I firmly believe that her parents need to hold themselves morally responsible. Furthermore, given the problems that her daughter is having, she should stop shopping around for a reality show for her younger child and just be their parent!
By the way, Billy, I hope your comments on a radio station in NYC this morning were a bad attempt at humor and not your real belief about this situation, otherwise if you believe Lindsay, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I want to sell you.
Lindsay is 21 and is responsible for her own actions. Her parents may or may not have been good parents we don't know what goes on in private, but Lindsay needs to quit pointing the finger at everyone except herself and start taking responsibility for her own actions. I am 15 years sober in the program of Alcoholics Anonymous and take my sobriety very seriously. In my opinion Lindsay has too many people around her telling her what she wants to hear and co-signing all her stuff. Lindsay also needs to change her playgrounds and playmates. In early sobriety she cannot continue to hang out in clubs with everyone drinking alcohol around her. She obviously is not willing at this point to "go to any lengths" to get sober which is what is required in order to "recover". I personally don't care if she is a star, how much money and fame she has...to me she is another drunk like I am..I was pretty wild myself in my drinking days, and when she decides that she's sick and tired of being sick and tired, I would love to sit and talk with her about the program of Alcoholics Anonymous and tell her how this program has changed my life. She has no idea how lucky she is that she can have a chance for a wonderful life at her young age. I just pray that Lindsay is not one of the ones who has to die in order for the rest of us to live.
Neither. Lindsay is to blame. She is 21 and old enough to make her own decisions. Maybe she needs to spend some time in jail to encourage her to obey the law.
Lindsay like so many stars of today and yesterday behave badly. It's really the fault of these filmakers who treat the stars like they are Gods. And for some reason the stars believe this BS, probably because they get anything they want and it magically appears. These stars knows the whole production goes on because they are on the show. Ask any personal assistant their experience with their stars and you'll find each story is remarkably similar.
Sorry, but I cant judge Lindsay's Mom or Dad. But what I would like to say is I think that Barbara Walters should not speak about being mean. Jay Leno is about comedy & the show was not out of line. What about how mean Walters was to Ross the Intern?
How about they all make Lindsay finally grow up and make HER responsible?
I don't know what's more of a joke - her excuse that the drugs "aren't mine" or her plea for "privacy".
This girl is far from recovery. There is not one iota of responsibility here.
I think lindsay needs to listen to her parents, she might need a dose of that tuff love. She is a kid and like most kids she will learn from her mistakes and realize her career is more important.
Are you kidding me??? Who Would keep someone else's drugs in their pocket??? Innocent? I think not. She was drinking. She was driving. She had drugs in her pocket. Guilty as charged. THe only one to blame is Lindsay. Two weeks out of rehab and it didn't occur to her to get a driver. Or not drink. Or not put drugs on her person. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid girl
I think that the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of Ms. Lohan. She has been given a great gift and a lavish lifestyle that she has obviously taken for granted. As a 21 year old woman I would think that a girl with all this money and all this success she can find better things to do than squander her life. She is putting her life at risk as well as the lives of anyone who gets in her way. I really do believe she needs help but definately not leniency. Growing up with an alcoholic father I understand the addiction but I firmly believe the abusers have to LEARN somehow and take responsibility for their stupidity. She needs to get herself together and quit drinking all together--I do not care if she is 21 or 91, Obviously this is a BIG problem. I am a partier myself but I HAVE NEVER and WILL NEVER DRINK AND DRIVE. Also when you have coke in your pocket how can it be yours? Oh no let me guess she was holding it for a friend. Right Lindsay right.
Having walked a path of destruction for nine years and placed my love one's in a terrible state of affairs. Denying you have a problem and blamining other's is the norm. The bag the bottle becomes your lover, its unconditional intimacy. Hope she wakes up soon or the family will be mourning her death all to soon.
Lindsey is responsible for herself. If her Mother was, a real Mother would have stepped in a long time ago and put a stop to all this before she turned legal. Dina Lohan is part of the problem.
Come On, Lindsay is 21 years old, and knows right from wrong. Too many people stand up and give excuses for the young Hollywood actors and actresses. Most of them were drinking and partying at clubs before they were even old enough to drink; why does the clubs allow that? Lindsay broke the law and should spend time in jail just like any other person would. Just because they are stars, they shouldn't get any special treatment. My son is 19 and is more responsible and mature. Come on Lindsay, grow up.
It's clear to me that LiLo is NOT on her way to recovery just yet. Her claims that she didn't do drugs and that the cocaine wasn't hers (yeah, right) just proves that she is in a denial stage. She hasn't hit rock bottom yet. Recovery can't take place until you admit TO YOURSELF that there is a problem. The fact she won't admit it to the public, let alone herself, that she has a problem, all the rehab in the world won't help. And I might add that this "Promises" place sounds like a joke. Whoever heard of a rehab facility that lets you leave daily to go shopping? Which brings us to another addiction that evidently she and Britney share: shopping. They are photo'd DAILY spending $1,000's an hour. She should remove herself from the west coast and all of her acquaintances and bad influences. Go to NY; take a role on Broadway; use your talent, but get the hell outta dodge before it kills you or someone else... And make peace with your father; could be part of the problem...
Not her drugs,yea right,they were mine,are we sure they were her pants,if it were you or I there would be no discussion,do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars,what a waste of space,her and all the others with too much time and money
i really can't even believe the question at hand. who's to blame? HER NAME IS LINDSAY LOHAN! THAT'S WHO TO BLAME- SHE'S 21 YEARS OLD! anybody who feels for this girl is just contributing to a generation of irresponsible brats in a world where nothing is their fault. as long as there are people who take their crap, we are in big trouble- we already are.
It's time for Lindsay to take responsibility for her actions. Possession is 9/10 of the law. My the grace of GOD she has not killed anyone. I do not fell she should be given apass of this dui, she needs to be in jail and away from society,parents & friends. 3 strikes your out lets see if that holds true for her, with her track record there will be a third.
On the other hand we all have choices to make, just because one of your parents is not law biding does that give you right of passage to do the same
pat schmac
When, oh when, is someone going to do a story about who is giving these stars the drugs? How did it happen the first time, where do they get it from, who are they doing it with? It can't possibly be that socially acceptable! Are these starts really that insecure they can't just say no?
Poor Lindsay, what bad luck.
She can't seem to be stopped by police that aren't corrupt and lie about her habits. So, is the owner of the cocain living in her purse or pockets since it's not hers. Poor girl is being picked on. Come on folks be kind after all she is an actress and should be able to do as she pleases in life. Oh well, back to working in the fields before I get fired.
If she were an everyday person like the rest of us she would have been in jail a long time ago.
How many everyday people have the option of hiding out in a rehab facility when they are caught DUI, damaging property, or in possession of drugs?
This is response to Dina's chastising the spoof of Lindsay on Jay Leno. Lindsey has asked for this with her deplorable, embarassing behavior. Maybe being made a mockery of will wake her and her mother the hell up. Lindsey needs a kick in the butt to reality. She is like Paris, Britney and others who think they're above the law. It's not cute and unless they want a headstone with their name on it, they need to straighten out. These girls have some serious, serious issues. Maybe seeing the public's opinion of them will smarten them up and save their lives. Obviously nothing else including rehab has worked. Maybe jail time will? But longer than 23 days.
Dina is upset about the Schneider skits.....she should be upset about the conduct of her child. And if both her and her x were fit parents this wouldnt be happening in the first place. Dina, rethink what you should really be upset about. can we just can the Lindsay, Brit Paris crap. I am so thoroughly sick of it
I am the last of 7 children and we did not have all the pomp and privilege of these spoiled movie stars. What I did have was a great set of parents who taught me responsibilty and worried about being good parents. Dina reminds me of someone riding the coat tails of her daughter to be famous herself, meet celebs or who knows. Whatever she is doing we know what she is not doing, and that is being a good parent or maybe a parent at all.
I finished high school, went on to college to become a nurse and I am who I am today because of my parents.
All I can say to Lindays parents, especially the mother who seems to have been the main "parent/friend", is you built the perfect beast, now I guess someone else can try and fix the problem.
T.
I think that no one really cares about what is going on with Lindsay Lohan. I think what is more important is that she realize that if she wants to ruin her life fine do it but not at the potential expense of others. Drink yourself crazy if you want but DO NOT get behind the wheel. Dina is mad at the spoof on Jay Leno show, well darling when your in Hollywood thats how it goes. You willingly CHOSE to put your daughter in the spotlight, obviously these are the consequences. Lindsay is obviously not taking her addictions and problems seriously why should Jay Leno?
Dina Lohan and Lindsay Lohan deserve ALL the criticism and jokes at THEIR EXPENSE HOLLYWOOD CAN DISH OUT!! Lindsay's problems are Lindsay's problems, she created them, not Dina, not her Dad, LINDSAY!! She was given more than enough outs!! I for one am SICK TO DEATH of her and her Mother. To Lindsay and her Mother........SHUT UP!! Quit whining and giving excuses and acting like people should feel sorry for you cause you've had it sooooo bad...boo hoo! Take responsibility for your actions and your life and if you don't want all the attention and glam, WALK AWAY!!! Trust me, there are NUMEROUS girls that would kill to have the opportunities you have had, so walk away and let someone who will VALUE those opportunities have them!
The sad truth is that it's too late to assign blame. Lindsay is an adult and she has gotten herself into a huge load of trouble all by herself. As an adult she has got to figure it out and decide where she wants to go with her life. As long as people spend time trying to assign blame or figure out what went wrong, the focus is off the real issue which is Ms. Lohans recovery process and that needs to start now! She doesn't need anyone telling her what to do and she doesn't need people hovering around her trying to protect her. She needs to get her act together and make a clear, heartfelt choice between a life of addiction or a successful career. It's not rocket science. As long as she is allowed to lean on people the longer its going to take her to find her way. If she's not ready to decide on her own that she can't handle addictive substances then there is nothing anyone can do. And she won't be the first hollywood starlett to throw it all away. It's sad but it's her life now to do with as she pleases...even if it means that she destroys it.
Who cares what Dina Lohan thinks? She is someone who matters? Not. She needs to get a life and attempt to raise her other children better than she did with Lindsay
Lindsay's mom and dad need to stop blaming the media and all others for their daughter's misbehavior. They also need to stop enabling her and start giving her some very serious tough love.
I'm a grandma to a girl older than Lindsey Lohan. There is alcoholism on both sides of my family. I think that Billy and Access did a disservice to her broadcasting her rebuttal. If she feels she needs to get a rebuttal out, she should pay for an ad. EVERYONE is trying to blame other people, and it Lindsey alone that has to live with what she is doing. Poor little girl needs to accept responsibility, for her own actions, and not grab on to every piece of misguided sympathy that goes her way. Don't let me see how her Dad is sorry, don't tell me that her Mother is distraught. Who cares?? I only care that she accepts help, and gets out of the publics face until she has pulled herself back up.
I have to say that I truly like Jay Leno's show, but him mocking Lindsay made me physically ill. Making fun of someone that has such an obvious horrible disease is not in the least bit funny. We watch Lindsay, Britney and others go through this because where there is money you have the potential to buy anything including drugs. As a parent of young children my heart goes out to their families. America needs to quit feeding off of their darkest hours and figure out how we help these individuals become healthy for the long run.
Lyndsay has no one to blame but herself. She needs to grow up and accept responsibility for her own actions and quit pointing finger blaming others in her family.
I think Lindsay deserves to pay for her mistakes, just because she's a famous actress doesn't mean she should be treated any different than any other person in society,she knows right from wrong. I thing she loves the attention personally.In my opinion it is sad that her father was not around for her but she can't blame her father for everything. What kind of example is she setting for young girls? If I don't see her do another movie for a while that will be ok with me.
I am not sure what to think about all this. In reality it does not take much for an actress/singer to fall down and get back up depending on the situation at hand. I have been listening to the videos here and can not believe that an idol for many teens have fallen down so hard and gotten arrested for what she did wrong criminally but I have learned that the good idols do fall too. I wish the best for Lindsay and I believe her family will help her pick up the pieces at the same time she too will pick up the pieces. She is not alone in this world. We all fall from grace but we all pick right back up in the long run, don't we?
The media must take partial responsibility for what is going on in Hollywood these days. They are trying to "supply" the "demand" that we commoners have for knowledge on the absolutely everyday of these famous people. If the media would back off, take the blaring light of these young adults, maybe then these "stars" will realize that they might actually have to work at becoming famous rather then being "famous for being famous".
Drunk, high, depressed, insecure, lonely and BORED. They need real jobs and the media should demand more from them.
-g
I think she needs help but until she can admit she needs the help so regardless as to who is to blame Lindsay is over 18 and regardless of parental blame or not she is of age and responsible for her actions and needs to be in Jail and not just get a little hand slap for 23 days like other socialites. Normal everyday people get 45 days for dui and license supsension and they can stay in the same cells with murders, give her that taste of life
I think it is so sad that alot of people blame thier parents for all the wrong choices they have made! Lindsay has made the choice to be an out of control party girl, with the drunken driving accidents and the drugs!!!
I'm not saying that Lindsay isn't responsible for her own decisions, but it doesn't seem like her father even knows her in that interview. It doesn't seem to me that her parents raised her neccessarily, regardless of the reason. The point is, Lindsay just seems like she raised herself. Even though she's making some mistakes, i think she is an incredibly idealistic person because of her potential and just the person she is. I think she's an amazing person that is caught in Hollywood drama. Media and all kinds of people attacking her at every angle, so tell me what is she supposed to think? I mean i don't know her nor her family personally so most of my opinions are based on interviews and all that, but i have a feeling there's obviously more to Lindsay than what the media says. people shouldn't let media act as their Bibles, form your own opinion based on what you believe to be important . People are constantly telling her she's no good and this and that, and she could possibly believe it because perhaps her parent's or most/all of her friends haven't been supportive or encouraging. I'm sure her parents are good people, but they didn't raise her the best that they could've. I think Lindsay Lohan is a beautiful, talented, and smart person so she shouldn't let people bring her down or keep her from making the right decisions. She should also stay away from people who don't care about her like the media or so called friends like Paris Hilton.
>>LINDSAY LOHAN IS MY IDOL!!!!! i wish i could meet her
Lindsay needs to take on her own responsible for her actions. Yes, she had bad parents that are now enjoying the limelight from their daughter's illness. Shame on them.. Yes,she had a crappy childhood but alot of people do,and they live their lives without causing big scenes and breaking the law whenever they seem to go & party. At least her dad is taking a part of the responsible for his actions but Dina isn't. She mentions that her relationship with Lindsay is more like sisters then parent and child. So there one problem. Dina needed to be a parent & not a partner in crime. She needed to lay down the rules. The ones that I worried about are Lindsay's siblings, they too have grown up watching Dad, Mom and Sis all develop self-destructive behaviors. I think the whole family needs counsiling..We see that Lindsay uses her celebrite status to break the laws & thinks that she won't be held responsable. It's time for some TOUGH love..
Lindsay needs to wake up and realize how much she has. There are people in this world that are starving and people in this world who are dying for our country. As for Dina she is the worst excuse of a mother there is. If she wanted a friend then she should have gone out and found one not given birth to one. And as for the father yes he has made alot of mistakes but if he has truly found God then yes he can change. I'm not going to judge him only God knows if he has really found Him and given his life to God. If this is the case then that is wonderful and then hopefully he can help Lindsay. Because Lindsay is on a dead end road that is going to end up killing her and her career. If Lindsay wants people to forget and forgive her then maybe she should start with her father. It seems like he made alot of the same mistakes she has made so maybe she can learn alot from him.
Billy,
Thanks for at least sounding a bit opened minded this time, at least where Michael Lohan is concerned. Yes Michael screwed up, i'm a parent i've made mistakes myself. but i believe with Michael coming clean, righting the wrongs, and trying to help other people shows hope for lindsay doesn't it? This man has been so scrutinized. I've talked with him, He has alot of faith and he's doing what he needs to do so he can go to sleep at night with a good conscience. DINA, on the other hand, i'm sorry. A mother and daughter should be close, i don't care if lindsay is 21 years old, Dina should have laid into her a long time ago, she should have guided her, not grab her by the hair. and YES i do believe she's in it for the fame. She shouldn't be trying to condemn the kids father, she's hurting her kids more that way. very vicious! how sad for her.